awesome job man. you make it so hard to crit lol i really like the car ears silly goose one *nose bleed*

how the silly goose do you draw girls so well? im having such a hard time with them lol you know any sights i could go to or anything like that?

If you don't mind, can I ask a question of my new self-declared Mentor of the Drawing Arts? ;w;

What size brush/pen do you use for your lineart?

EDIT : Also, I know its kinda late, but I was browsing around for tutorials and found this. http://Calizaa.deviantart.com/art/Wing- ... 75855&qo=7

WINGS. XD

I stopped coloring altogether when you left. >.> I definitely need more practice now, because I've forgotten. ):


That bottom one is really, really good. The perspective is awesome.

Mmm ... lot of sexy girls ^_^ love them xD

TheWarden
Thanks

alienninja
Yeah that pose really is hard. And the Houden Eizou mimic, well it's much more of a style a graduated from see. I'm trying to simplify my style.

Matt
Thanks mon, I'll fix the label right away.

iDreame
Lol, maybe because I'm quite into gothic designs, I feel that asian designs are too limitted so I always tap into western designs though I'm asian. Plenty of research but it is fun. Also thanks for your comments, reading them never fails to motivate me and make me think positively of my style. I'll fix the label right away.

xX_TODDZILLA_Xx
Lol, about girls, probably because that was my only motivation in drawing. I got my scanner back so I can repost 2007 stuff and see the changes. About sites...well, I'm more of toward an illustrator as of now than a mangaka. I've realized the big difference between the two in terms of flexibility and it makes me sad. Try ferricorp it has a big database full of nothing but that, I've always been basing my stuff from other people's work unlike people telling that you should do realism blah blah...well I guess it does not follow because there really is no sure way to win this game so take it the way you most enjoy it.

iDreame
Hmm, I use something that is extremely small...like forexample, if the image is 2000x2000, I use a 10 pixel pen to lineart then resize it to 1000x1000...I usually only down scale at least 50% though for work I do it up to 20% of original size but regardless, I use 10-20pixel pen. Note that my strokes are very light so in actuality my normal strokes with a 10pixel looks like a hard pressed 2pixel. Thanks for the wing tutorials.

Celestial-Fox
You should color, you are the master of shading after all. Thanks.

andrei
Thanks

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Hmm, I'm beginning to loathe my style again. I can't help it because there is just too many things I'm unable to do with it and I feel that I'm really too old that it looks pointless to go further. That and I started late =________=. Gah, I tried to do a manga but it doesn't look right so I'll see if I can further simplify my style hopefully but I don't expect much from it. I think I'm too occupied with career stuff than this hobby of mine that it seems impossible to catch up...I should've had the seriousness to begin this when I was atleast <12...otl >......<
To be exact, I tried to create a 4koma, but apparently my OCD got the best of me and it doesn't look like a 4koma because I'm more of an illustrator than a mangaka so my stuff are very not simplified and are hard to recreate with the same level of effort for every panel. I must say that I want to be both but time tells it seems to be not possible.

I think you should post what you've done, so we can see exactly what you're doing wrong. I might not be able to, but there are people out there who could give you some great advice.

I suppose I should
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-This one is what kept me busy for a while, I have no problems with it
-It's work work so I had to do obstructive watermarks, sorry that it gets in the way, I don't really have a choice

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-This it how it looks like with the storyboard, done in sai with high image size and resolution so the lines look thin and you could see the movement of the story

-this one is how it looks like after transferring to mangastudio so the lines appear much thicker in anycase the point is that my style doesn't seem to look 4koma-ish it looks too...heavy
-I had troubles doing the second panel because it expresses stuff in a very simplistic typical anime SDfusion and that is something I'm unable to bend my style into

Dude, you're way too hard on yourself, the frames that you've done so far looks awesome! All it needs is some tones

And the first drawing in your post looks great too of course!

I agree, the line art looks awesome as usual. I'm always interested to hear what resolution other people work in. I'm not entirely sure what you mean, however, when you say 4koma-ish or SDfusion (forgive my ignorance).

It sounds like you have more of a problem with your style right now, than anything else. Was it you that told another person that you never really bothered with doing real-life stuff? If so, you may consider going and just trying your hand at it. It can be boring and annoying but it's better than wasting time on a style that limits you. Hopefully it will help you develop a style that you can do whatever you like with.

Vinyafod
Thanks, if it comes to draws per say I'm not saying that they're bad it's just looking at these in the composition sense of things...they don't work like a 4koma. Because those types of manga are light hearted and simple. My style is the complete opposite of such. That is my problem.

Nisaren
4koma (Yonkoma) is the manga form of a western comic strip. Uses only up to 4 panels to express an idea and are mostly for comedic purposes. Usually the panels are lined up and read top to bottom. Popular 4koma series titles I know are Azumanga Daioh, Lucky Star and Hidamari Sketch. K-On! is also a 4koma.
SDfusion is just a term I call for purposes of stating SD (Super Deformed) and fusion because some scenarios are not in SD. Usually you'd observe this in gag manga or anime where characters become chibified or SD to express a hyperbole of the emotion they feel although normally they follow an actual form.

Thanks but I see that you seem to not have thought of the point in doing real-life images.

Just to inform everyone (who reads this anyway), that is exactly what I'm trying to get rid of. My overreliance to observable details in real life has lead me to create a stylistic standstill, so I call it, that I can't seem to simplify my work any further and that I keep on going back into the same style because I'm so used to focusing on the little details due to my obsessive compulsive disorder.
The contnuum goes in this form for better illustration
SD<->chibi<->manga<->semirealistic<->realistic
simplified<--------------------------->complex
and I'm stuck between manga and semirealistic. There's really not much point in me going realistic because it's counter productive. I fear as well that if I dwell in realism, I'd end up picking it up as the new standard of detail (because I am OC) and put me even a notch farther from the simplified forms. The only reason one dwells in realism is to get used to the general form you need, which is proportion and anatomy. Now the problem is that I can't let go of my level of knowledge on those two that I always end up doing manga<->semirealistic everytime I try to simplify things. T____T The topmost drawing is proof of that. That's suppose to go loli but it doesn't. Instead, it appears moe and mid teens o____0 and notice how far from simplification the ways I draw hands. Lately I've also started drawing knees, ankles and wrists, the fold of the upper eyelid, the fold of the lower eyelid, the nails and I even draw eyebrows with space in them just to put color in it...who in their right mind would do that those for a comedic 4 paneled comic strip that's suppose to be light hearted and simple o_0, and who does draw the insides of the ears so meticululously =_________=. I also even doubt many noticed those trends that I do with my art because details are overlooked. This also explains my slow work pace. The worst part is that I'm aware of what makes it wrong and that I'm unable to express these things in a much simpler form. In a sense, I can only move forward to complex, but I can't make myself go backward to the simple forms.

This is basically the reason why I feel so inferior to faust or sutari, because those two can easily vary their output to fit the needs.

I'm not saying my works are bad, in the composition sense of things, my style as it is now, is not what I need to do a good flowing composition for a comedic 4koma. And I fail to make it different, it only remains unchanged and becomes more and more detail dependent as I go further.

Maybe you could simplify the hair? By that, just define the outline and a few important strands. That and use a lighter pen tool, like that one for shojo manga. I guess that'd take care of the heaviness. Still, no matter how slightly imperfect it is, you're still my favorite MT artist. Not sucking up there. I'm serious.

Thanks for the explanation. I believe I do understand the point of doing real-life work. I just wasn't sure where your problem lay. To me it's less of a continuum and more like spokes of a wheel with real-life being at the center of everything.

Obsessive compulsive disorder is a tough problem to overcome but I'm sure if you try hard enough you'll be able to make some progress. Once you start believing that it's impossible, then you may as well quit. I'm not sure anyone here can really help you in a technical way. All we can do is encourage you to keep trying.

I had this whole huge paragraph ready and then my browser closed unexpectedly and I really don't wanna write it all over again <_<;

Anyway, you have an amazing style :D And some aspects of your style will change, but a lot of it will stay the same. Either way, you're still an amazing artist. Keep at it! :D

Uwaaa... That comic strip looks so nice. I'm loving that line art, especially the detailed hair.

If you want to move toward realism more, I suggesting using less lines and more organic shapes. Reality is a little "plain" compared to manga.