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 Post subject: CSS and HTML
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:51 pm 
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Ok,I know the title might(will) scare of ALOT of people, but being an artist, it's acutally something useful to look into and have some knowledge about. Does anyone here know ANYTHING about these subjects, and can you be willing to give a bit of help? I want to start working on a webcomic, but before I do so I want to get the website working.

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 Post subject: Re: CSS and HTML
PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:32 pm 
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w3 Schools very good reference on HTML, CSS, and other web coding languages (PHP, Javascript, etc.) as well as tutorials. Not sure how useful the tutorials are though.

that said, for a webcomic site, you will likely need more than just CSS and HTML. Basically you could build the site on those alone, but the updating process would be tedious and annoying.
Adding a new page to the comic would have you;
1) changing the front page/ most recent page section,
2) creating a new page for the previously most recent page,
3) updating the archives to include the new page,
4) updating the archives with updated links for the prior most recent page,
and thats just what i can think of off the top of my head

so to make updatign less of a night mare, you would want too look into CMS software (explained here) such as Joomla (free if i remember correctly) and (i think) Wordpress.

That said it's still a good idea to learn HTML and CSS as (note i have not worked with CMS software before so pardon if i am not 100% accurate on this) you need to create page templates to put your content into and for the program to replicate as you update and add more content, and knowing HTML and CSS will likely give you an edge on customizing those templates.

That said, if you need more specific help with CSS and HTML themselves feel free to ask me.

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 Post subject: Re: CSS and HTML
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We have a programming/coding thread in the GD. :D

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 Post subject: Re: CSS and HTML
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You're better off picking up Wordpress since the bones of the site is already made for you. There's also a some webcomic plugin's to help you get started.

If you want design control on your site, though, making it yourself is perfectly understandable. Are you hosting your own site or are you using some free comic viewer site like SmackJeeves?

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 Post subject: Re: CSS and HTML
PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:04 pm 
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I'm pretty good at them.

And you'd probably want PHP or Javascript if you were making a webcomic site.

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 Post subject: Re: CSS and HTML
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I can tell you that CSS is a million times better than HTML. CSS might take a little longer to learn, but it is seriously so worth it. Unfortunately, I'm rubbish at CSS, so that's about as much as I can tell you.

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 Post subject: Re: CSS and HTML
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CSS is actually fucking easy, it's just that it can only be used for setting properties, that is, it can't display a webpage by itself. HTML is needed to make all web pages.

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 Post subject: Re: CSS and HTML
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Wow that was pretty fast guys. I already got a system for this sort of stuff on my computer, Arachnophillia, for the scripting. Are there any other free wares you suggest? :)
EDIT: Ceffy, what is GD? Also, I am using a sites like smack jeeves and such, so it won't be that bad. I put the pages on auto link

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 Post subject: Re: CSS and HTML
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Uh, Linajane, I think this is the wrong thread. or link, per say.

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 Post subject: Re: CSS and HTML
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Yeah, that's a bot.

As for other things which might be useful, I'd recommend the Firebug add-on for Firefox - works really well for inspecting elements if they don't seem to be getting the right styles.

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 Post subject: Re: CSS and HTML
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The GD is the General Discussion part of the forum. :D

And I agree with Haya. CSS is a little trickier to keep track of while you're learning, but it pays off in the end.

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 Post subject: Re: CSS and HTML
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I should point out that HTML is the core language for all websites; CSS is simply a way of styling HTML elements. Each HTML element by itself supports a number of attributes, which control certain aspects of it, but are limited in how much they can change the display of an element -- by adding CSS rules to a page, however, you can control in much finer detail how each element looks and appears.

Using CSS "instead" of HTML means, usually, to use CSS properties instead of HTML attributes where possible. You still need a solid understanding of HTML, however, particularly with regard to the nature of elements and how they're laid out.

You might find the tutorials on this page helpful, for a more practical but less comprehensive introduction than w3schools et al. provide: http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/webmonkeys/2008/tutorials


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 Post subject: Re: CSS and HTML
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yeah, remember using webmonkey before. Now I have a practice page and everything done but..
How do i get it up on the internet? I've known a little HTML since I was 12, but the problem is I could never figure out how to get it on the internet.

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 Post subject: Re: CSS and HTML
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First you need to find a hosting plan. If you're running a small website, Freehostia is free and easy to use. Then you just drop the relevant files onto the webspace Freehostia gives you using their FTP client. A note, though: you'll need to type in the file manually (as in www.mywebsite.com/filename.html) or name it index for it to come up. Anything not called index.[extension] won't come up.

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 Post subject: Re: CSS and HTML
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For an overview of how to deploy websites (i.e., put them online), see this tutorial: http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/webmonkeys/file ... bsites.pdf -- it doesn't explain where to find hosting, but you can use something like what Delphinus mentioned for the actual host.


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