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 Post subject: Perspective anyone?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:05 pm 
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Hey.. I'm having some troubles with the body in perspective.. example:

http://fc02.deviantart.net/images2/i/20 ... ective.jpg
Now I know the farther away something gets from the camera, the smaller it gets, and I know how to use vanishing points for scenery and what not, but what I don't get, is how to combine the vanishing points with the the body at an extreme perspective. I would really like it if anyone had some tips or tricks. I need that variety to create more complex stuff.. I'm getting bored :(

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now I know the hand is off.. and it's messy, but the concept is what I can't quite get :( I mean.. I can draw from reference all day and it just doesn't quite click...

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Due to the nature of the body's shape, knowledge of linear perspective will become increasingly less important when body perspective is concerned. There are a few broad techniques that may help, but otherwise, it's all about eyeballing it and practicing until you get the general hang of things.


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yea ceef is right, you have to start dealing with both equally, how the body fits with the proportion, how the proportion compliments the body. And mix that all together the right way to get the result you want.

As for that specific pose, it's a hard one because getting something off proportion is really easy, nothing is necessarily too big, and not too small, they're more close to the original sizes. I'll try one using that perspective on my own and see what I come up with later maybe

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This is mostly head knowledge I'm repeating here, but your drawing looks like it's done in two-point perspective right? Taking comics as an example, you might be able to make the effect more dramatic by giving a view closer to the left arm and foreshortening the sides further away. =)


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 Post subject: Re: Perspective anyone?
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hey thnx man. I think I'm just going to have to draw from reference for a while before I get the hang of it :/

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It might be a good idea to try to reduce the body to cubes and putting them into perspective.


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Im not sure if its relative to human perspective. but it helped me alot after drawing a few backgrounds. Example:

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Its hard to put a certain perspective distance on a human body with the line like in the picture above.

When the lines are streight- its very easy to handle the perspective.. i dont know why. but my sence of perspective about drawing manga characters in perspective improved after i draw a few backgrounds like these.

but if im gonna make a suggestion to you, even if im not fully experienced myself, i would say you should make the shoulder on the 2nd picture, smaller.

but i have to say something. u are alot better then me :D this is my try of a perspective in manga.

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another thing, What NinjaE8825 said was a really good suggestion. :D

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Yes, backgroudn are related to human anatomy. When you do a change of perseption in human anatomy you can use a focus point, so you will have a guide of how the body react with the focus point and the perspective.

Is you master human anatomy and focus point, making a change of perseption shouldn't be a big deal.

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you should probably link that pic in the opening topic just in case.
I am trying to learn perspective too recently, I have a book called "Drawing in Perspective" by Oliver Striegel. Maybe it could help.

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Well.. someone has told me about building some kind of grid system that would help, apparently it's a system designed by one of the old masters.. anyone know what I'm talking about?

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Are you really not familiar with the grid system? It's designed to help you copy with a lot of accuracy. I'll try to find a tut.


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i know how the photorealism grid system.. this is supposed to be a different system specifically for perspective..

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What is the grid system?

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As the name suggests, it's a grid (think graphing paper) except the grid will be a-top a drawing or paper and the same grid will be atop a plain piece of paper. It's used for alignment and perfectly copying images either at the same scale or at a larger or smaller scale than the original. It's also a good way for teaching new artists about copy-drawing.

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